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    Post  anubisram on Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:27 am

    OCHIBA SHIGURE (AUTUMN LEAVES ON WATER)




    Sited within the Kawarigoi classification which has beenpreviously been described as a “crossbreed and oddity”

    It was developed from breeding programmes between Chagoi andSoragoi, Chagoi and Ogon and more recently Chagoi and Kohaku.

    There are Doitsu Ochiba Shigure but are reported as beingfew and far between and a good example highly prized.

    Ochiba
    Shigure are said to be one of those koi that do notshow their true
    beauty until they have reached adult, and sometimes jumbo size.
    Things to look for –


    The delicate vignette effect of scaling should be of high definition and clarity

    Patterns are not specific but should be balanced, pleasing to the eye and in sharp contrast to the base colour
    The head should display both colours
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    Post  Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:05 pm

    I got a tiny one from holmeswood koi...bit of a gamble at a 2-3 " purchase ..lol but i like it . Ochiba Shigure Centreparks565

    Loved the nose spot ...and its a grower ..now a massive 3-4 " Very Happy

    Seriously, its put on some bulk and about 1 " in three weeks so i expect (hope) for 8 - 10 " by the end of the season . Only hope the pattern and colour stays .
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    Post  sheryl on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:49 pm

    I like that Mel! also love the nose spot make sure you post some more pics as it develops
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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:51 pm

    if that pattern and scalation is maintained you are going to have a cracking koi on your hands


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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:29 pm

    Thanks peeps

    the only problem with him/her is that the char is not as bright as it was, a negative of growing indoors Sad

    Still , the last few i grew on coloured up quickly when back in the pond. Seems ashame not to leave him in the vat as he likes it in there and gets well fed ..lol.

    I,ll post a pic in a month or so of his development.

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    Post  sheryl on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:32 pm

    Thanks Mel

    look forward to seeing them!
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    Post  gfrears1 on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:43 pm

    This is the one I have,and one of the first I ever got from a dealer(note the date),Koipool in Fleetwood,cost 5 quid and maybe not the best but love it!!!

    [img]url=https://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=38&u=13159563]Ochiba Shigure Pictur10[/url][/img]
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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:43 pm

    mel, what lighting are you using?


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    Post  gfrears1 on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:46 pm

    And as of May this year.
    Since I have been using buffers the brown is darkening so looks different from here now

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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:50 pm

    thats looking good g
    put some weight on and filled out nicely


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    Post  gfrears1 on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:54 pm

    Its one of my favourites and even though it aint great I wouldnt get rid as it is the one ive had the longest.
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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:55 pm

    it would be welcome in my pond any day


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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:58 pm

    G, i must ask, wot have you got on your eyes on your avatar pic?
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    Post  sheryl on Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:04 pm

    Well i can say ive seen it Rich and its better in the flesh
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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:42 pm

    Thats a nice ochiba G... Have i missed it, when ive been to yours?
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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:43 pm

    Its nice that G and £1.95 cheaper than mine...lol.. Very Happy

    Lighting....don,t laugh Embarassed

    I use a low wattage economy bulb, you know them eco ones were all supposed to have in the house. I also leave the double doors open on the shed and the covers off to get some natural light in there. I wish i had kept some starter units from my fish tanks for some decent tubes . Don,t suppose there is a cheap way of increaseing light levels ?
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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:48 pm

    Heres a pic....great for disapearing from the wife this shed aswell Very Happy

    You can see the double doors and the light from the bulb.


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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:49 pm

    depends what you call cheap you can do it for under 50 squid


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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:59 pm

    Its a double starter unit then and some daylight tubes from memory i need ?. £50.00 an,t to bad i,ll budgjet for getting the lighting.
    I used the low wattage bulb as i had loads lighting tropical fish tanks in the garage a few years back and the fish always looked great and kept there colour and never got black hair algae like i did with proper tubes , but it isn,t working with the koi if there colour is fadeing . A Shiro i have in there hasn,t lost any colour..yet .

    Its a long term hobby so i,ll build up the equipment and get the lighting top on the list Smile
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    Post  anubisram on Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:13 pm

    i'll dig out the links for you...the tubes are 10,000 k marine daylights - used for corals and inverts with built in reflectors


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    Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:29 pm

    Apreciate that thanks.

    I bought all my lighting "non internet" for the tropicals and i,m supprised how reasonable the tubes and starters are in the links. I paid more than them prices 8 years ago. I,ll add them to my favourites for pay day Very Happy

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